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https://www.popsci.com/story/science/ghosts-real-science/

Someone had to say it. But seriously science cannot disprove it, but regardless of that point, the rest of his points are coming from a skeptic, that is scared of things bumping in the night, and the teddy bear thing.

Sure l have seen plenty, including my 10 year deceased, Grandmother, and that wasn't swamp gas, a mental disorder, lights, aliens or cockroaches.

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On 11/17/2020 at 9:07 PM, tmcom said:

https://www.popsci.com/story/science/ghosts-real-science/

Someone had to say it. But seriously science cannot disprove it, but regardless of that point, the rest of his points are coming from a skeptic, that is scared of things bumping in the night, and the teddy bear thing.

Sure l have seen plenty, including my 10 year deceased Grandmother, and that wasn't swamp gas, a mental disorder, lights, aliens or cockroaches.

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Hi,

It is taught in both Mystical Qabalah, Zorastrian, Ayrevedic based spiritual doctrines that people who are conscious in both the physical (Hebrew = Asiyah) and the Astral (Sanskrit = Hbr = Yetzirah), are generally clairvoyant, are psychic, and are able to see the recently departed eg., 'ghosts' (often just 'thought atmospheres' or vibratory reflections of Nephesh (Hbr = soul), among other things which depending on how deeply into Yetzirah one might be conscious, are able to see elementals and creatures in the side columns, Reptilians, Dragons, as well as the end of the paths watchers, which are all Angels (Hbr) which are all Drakko Reptilians.  There is more going on than most Humans are capable of comprehending. 

As for science, that is tricky matter. Most Ph.D.s desire to be thought of as that of the public's belief that scientists are the supreme understanders of everything, a coveted status of intelligence, when in reality most Ph.D.s are just better trained engineers, and are no more intelligent than the average plumber, truck driver or secretary, in my experience, but what stands Ph.D.s apart from those honerable positions and skill sets, is the quality of their ability to remember things, eg., 'memory', and they have been trained how to do studies and document what they find, the latter are both learnable skills. I work with Ph.D.s and most are dumb as bricks but they remember everything. Same state of condition exists regarding most medical doctors, and are generally not very good in doing  aside from collecting money, but they have great memories and can pass the tests. While an authentic 'scientist' however is cut from a different cloth, its not the training but how they think. It is a quality with which they are born. They think in special ways. They deduce and solve problems differently than ordinary Ph.D.s and everyone else also. It is interesting to realize just how many scientists through out history were not academically trained yet discovered and documented much of the world's taken now for granted knowledge. Leonardo Di Vinci comes to mind and Benjamin Franklin is another. Both of those scientist were born.  Authentic scientist become quiet when presented with matters of mystery. Those who run their mouths, who offer opinions upon presentation of information are generally not working the problem.
 

Regarding the supposed skepticism of 'scientists' regarding non-local events, such as ghosts, that is a changing matter. Ph.D.s are often the skeptics, but remember that most Ph.D.s are industrial engineers and that their work is not involve phenomenon research or studies. They are also, often the first to vocalize a negative opinion. Sir Issac Newton, once said, regarding his study of Astrology, the reason he became a mathematician, in reply to a negative comment by another mathematician regarding the "poppy-cock" Astrology, Newton retorted, "Sir, you have not studied the subject!" And such is true of most industrial 'scientists'.  

There are scientists studying non-local quantum events, known in street parlance as telepathy, Remote-Viewing, telekinesis, psychokinesis, Astral-Projection (also technically known as "Bi-Location"), future prediction, and psychic visions.

One such scientist is Dr. Roger Nelson, a multiple discipline, multiple Ph.D. scientist. One of his mentors was Robert Jahn, director of the Princeton Anomally Research Center, Princeton University. Together they studied psychics and psychic phenomena at Princeton.  Employing extraordinary protocols (to squelch academic skeptics), they studied psychic to determine if they could actually predict future events.  One dominent strategy used was having a psychic attempt to predict the result of a random number generator. It is actually quite difficult to create a truly random number generator that does not repeat. Random number generators often employ a 'seed', which exhibits many digits, before it repeats which the skeptics claim is the reason that psychics are 'predicting' the numbers generate. Eventually, scientist developed a truly random event generator, "reg", that utilized a Brian Josephson Field Effect Transistor, reverse biased to drive the band-gap apart, then amplifying the Brownian Noise (White noise, eg., pink noise with 12 dB roll-off), to a larger level so that it may be squared up (converting from analog to digital format) using a hard-limiter, and then squirt it our via a serial port for usage. Over time they miniaturized the micro-reg. They used this micro-reg to continue testing psychics.  Using this gadget, which became named "Mind-Song", they discovered that psychics were not just predicting random numbers generated but that the Mind-Song was sensing the psychic's intention. What this all means is that the Mind-Song was the world's first electronic psychic sensor, a psionic device.  It is interesting to note, that ghost hunters also have accidentally discovered a psychic sensor.  In that story, in past years, before the invention of large solid-state memory, flash, etc, ghost hunters often utilized a tape recorder which they would set on some table, plug in a microphone, turn the gain all the way up and then leave the room. The tape recorder would then record any sounds in the room all night. Playing back the tape listening for ghost messages. One ghost hunter, set up the tape recorder, turned the gain the microphone gain to maximum, but forgot to jack in the microphone. And still they recorded ghost messages. What actually happened?  The tape recorder amplifier recorded the Brownian noise in the amplifier, which is white noise.  Today there are many white noise sensors being used by ghost hunters.  There is even an automatic white noise to verbal decoding of the white noise into Human languages.

It seems that white noise, or chaos, is somehow connected to the Astral-plane/Yetzirah.

In any case there are scientists who are studying the application of white noise for the purpose of predicting future events.

One such effort was engineered by Dr. Roger Nelson which he and his team mates named the "Global Consciousness Project" which utilizes Mind-Song mircro-reg sensors distributed around the globe, hooked up to the serial ports of PCs running the Linux operating system. The Mind-Song sensors sense the 'noosphere' a phrase used by Nelson to describe the intelligence of the planetary consciousness. The Mind-Song connected Linux periodically upload their sensor data to the global data center operated by the Global Consciousness Project.

https://noosphere.princeton.edu/

The Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, are all using the "chaos" of the InterNet to predict future events, which they refer to as the "buzz".  This technology has both negative and positive applications.

There is more happening than the public realizes.

It is now likely, in my opinion, that there are electronic, psionic machines that can also 'see', eg., detect ghosts.

plutronus

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On 2/12/2021 at 11:56 AM, plutronus said:

Hi,

It is taught in both Mystical Qabalah, Zorastrian, Ayrevedic based spiritual doctrines that people who are conscious in both the physical (Hebrew = Asiyah) and the Astral (Sanskrit = Hbr = Yetzirah), are generally clairvoyant, are psychic, and are able to see the recently departed eg., 'ghosts' (often just 'thought atmospheres' or vibratory reflections of Nephesh (Hbr = soul), among other things which depending on how deeply into Yetzirah one might be conscious, are able to see elementals and creatures in the side columns, Reptilians, Dragons, as well as the end of the paths watchers, which are all Angels (Hbr) which are all Drakko Reptilians.  There is more going on than most Humans are capable of comprehending. 

I would say that some human beings just want their radial tires and their color tv's and see death as a promotion or confirmation of "when l die, or my mind does then l cease to exist". And l would say that they will be disappointed.

And l have been in a mystic group that all saw some pretty way out things, and also channeled a monk, which was an experience within itself.

On 2/12/2021 at 11:56 AM, plutronus said:

As for science, that is tricky matter. Most Ph.D.s desire to be thought of as that of the public's belief that scientists are the supreme understanders of everything, a coveted status of intelligence, when in reality most Ph.D.s are just better trained engineers, and are no more intelligent than the average plumber, truck driver or secretary, in my experience, but what stands Ph.D.s apart from those honerable positions and skill sets, is the quality of their ability to remember things, eg., 'memory', and they have been trained how to do studies and document what they find, the latter are both learnable skills. I work with Ph.D.s and most are dumb as bricks but they remember everything. Same state of condition exists regarding most medical doctors, and are generally not very good in doing  aside from collecting money, but they have great memories and can pass the tests. While an authentic 'scientist' however is cut from a different cloth, its not the training but how they think. It is a quality with which they are born. They think in special ways. They deduce and solve problems differently than ordinary Ph.D.s and everyone else also. It is interesting to realize just how many scientists through out history were not academically trained yet discovered and documented much of the world's taken now for granted knowledge. Leonardo Di Vinci comes to mind and Benjamin Franklin is another. Both of those scientist were born.  Authentic scientist become quiet when presented with matters of mystery. Those who run their mouths, who offer opinions upon presentation of information are generally not working the problem.

Agreed, Doctors push what Phar, companies tell them to say, and will push something not necessarily for the patients best interests, but more for making a buck.

On 2/12/2021 at 11:56 AM, plutronus said:

It seems that white noise, or chaos, is somehow connected to the Astral-plane/Yetzirah.

In any case there are scientists who are studying the application of white noise for the purpose of predicting future events.

One such effort was engineered by Dr. Roger Nelson which he and his team mates named the "Global Consciousness Project" which utilizes Mind-Song mircro-reg sensors distributed around the globe, hooked up to the serial ports of PCs running the Linux operating system. The Mind-Song sensors sense the 'noosphere' a phrase used by Nelson to describe the intelligence of the planetary consciousness. The Mind-Song connected Linux periodically upload their sensor data to the global data center operated by the Global Consciousness Project.

https://noosphere.princeton.edu/

The Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, are all using the "chaos" of the InterNet to predict future events, which they refer to as the "buzz".  This technology has both negative and positive applications.

There is more happening than the public realizes.

It is now likely, in my opinion, that there are electronic, psionic machines that can also 'see', eg., detect ghosts.

plutronus

This gets back to the slit experiment, or proves that if we concentrate on something it affects its outcome.

https://plus.maths.org/content/physics-minute-double-slit-experiment-0

This was conducted around 1910, (without checking) with hundreds of other scientists confirming results, or solid, supporting evidence that there is something to mystics.

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My niece used to tell me about the man who hid in the bathroom at her house. This was when she was 3 or 4 years old. She said he was missing his left foot and two of his fingers were gone but he seemed nice. I thought she may have seen it in a show or something. Years later, sister found out that the man who used to live in the house was missing his left foot and lost two fingers in the war. Isn't that creepy!? 

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14 hours ago, Cosmic said:

My niece used to tell me about the man who hid in the bathroom at her house. This was when she was 3 or 4 years old. She said he was missing his left foot and two of his fingers were gone but he seemed nice. I thought she may have seen it in a show or something. Years later, sister found out that the man who used to live in the house was missing his left foot and lost two fingers in the war. Isn't that creepy!? 

i remember talking to my grandad white,my mams dad at 3am he was sat on my bed,i was aged 7 we had a talk then he smiled and said i wont see you for awhile now,my older sister came into the room and asked who was i talking too,told her who then went back to sleep,we was told the next day he had passed away at 2.55am, i always saw strange things when i was young still do now,i think were born with this and loose it when you get older,but some retain it !

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On 8/10/2022 at 7:00 AM, Billybass said:

i remember talking to my grandad white,my mams dad at 3am he was sat on my bed,i was aged 7 we had a talk then he smiled and said i wont see you for awhile now,my older sister came into the room and asked who was i talking too,told her who then went back to sleep,we was told the next day he had passed away at 2.55am, i always saw strange things when i was young still do now,i think were born with this and loose it when you get older,but some retain it !

This is possible! It does seem to be a lot stronger with kids. Like I have to wonder those who have imaginary friends, if they are just making friends with ghosts! I always wondered about it. I am shocked they haven't done a movie like that. Like where an imaginary friend of a child is a ghost and the guy grows up and the ghost reappears into his adult life. 

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i lived at my grans for the first few yrs born there whilst my dad was at sea it was an old victorian large house,saw some strange things at that house also my sister did,she grew out of it,but it stayed with me until we moved into our own home,but it never really left me i just found better things in life and put the past behind me,but things always seem to follow me and i cant shake off my grans house,weird dreams ect about it,found out recently it was first used has a funeral home before my gran moved in back in 1940s,i think everyone has the ability but grow out of it when you get older,but others keep some of it through life like me, it becomes normal in the end and generaly ignore it until it gets weird, and were i live now is that with a long history,i just live with it now on a daily basis its become the norm" what ever normal is ? 

On 8/12/2022 at 10:09 PM, Cosmic said:

This is possible! It does seem to be a lot stronger with kids. Like I have to wonder those who have imaginary friends, if they are just making friends with ghosts! I always wondered about it. I am shocked they haven't done a movie like that. Like where an imaginary friend of a child is a ghost and the guy grows up and the ghost reappears into his adult life. 

 

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On 8/29/2022 at 6:56 AM, Billybass said:

i lived at my grans for the first few yrs born there whilst my dad was at sea it was an old victorian large house,saw some strange things at that house also my sister did,she grew out of it,but it stayed with me until we moved into our own home,but it never really left me i just found better things in life and put the past behind me,but things always seem to follow me and i cant shake off my grans house,weird dreams ect about it,found out recently it was first used has a funeral home before my gran moved in back in 1940s,i think everyone has the ability but grow out of it when you get older,but others keep some of it through life like me, it becomes normal in the end and generaly ignore it until it gets weird, and were i live now is that with a long history,i just live with it now on a daily basis its become the norm" what ever normal is ? 

 

I don't think there is such a thing as normal. Just more "common" and that is not always a good thing!

I think you might be onto something, for sure. I have heard this before. I think some places hold ties to our energy. I believe everything on this planet has an energy field, even if it is not physical. 

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On 8/30/2022 at 8:30 PM, Cosmic said:

I don't think there is such a thing as normal. Just more "common" and that is not always a good thing!

I think you might be onto something, for sure. I have heard this before. I think some places hold ties to our energy. I believe everything on this planet has an energy field, even if it is not physical. 

Your right and it can be a bad thing at times but when it becomes normal it's a worry,I've tried different ways too stop this happening religion,para groups ect,but it always comes back,your right it's a energy of everything,and everything is made up of this,which cannot be explained,even the big bang is a theory,dark energy ect,but life goes on what ever it is !

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